Tony hawk was great threw underground 2 then started to go down hill with waste land but was still pretty good. After waste land the games suck. I wish we could get like a good new tony hawk game or like remasters of the good tony hawk games with today's graphics or something. Skate I could never get into didn't care for the controls and while I normally care for sports games to be realistic I liked that tony hawk was over the top craziness.